Wednesday, May 10th, 2006 at 7:57 pm
[DrunkAndRetired.com Podcast] Episode 48 - A Zope Story, The marvellous JLine, and Lightweight Language Wars
Once again, in this episode, the brilliant Bill de HÓra saves what would have been an otherwise podcast. Zope, Rambo, readline, and dynamic languages! What ever happened to Python? Did Ruby steal it’s glory?
Apologies for being late. We was busy.
Along those lines, check out The Front Side, what Charles has been talking about and working on for the past year.
And a hardy “welcome to the world!” to little Laoise de hÓra! YUH!
(This episode edited by Charles.)
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May 12th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
Pretty sure there’s no Virtual PC for x86 Macs yet. Parallax is probably pretty good, and it’s rumored Apple may ship OSX 10.5 with some sort of virtual machine support built-in. I’m pulling for Wine myself.
May 12th, 2006 at 7:22 pm
I hear Parallax works well. Too bad don’t have a MacBookPro to test it out on.
May 13th, 2006 at 8:05 am
What a great episode.
About the rise of Ruby over Python: surely it’s because via Rails, Ruby is making more noise on the server side. Web 2.0 is the new frontier now, so that’s where the rockstar/hyperenthusiasts/whatever go. As Java’s big success has also been on the server side, that’s where the mainstream start paying attention (or seeing a threat, depending on your perspective). The Ruby community has got behind RoR; Python is far more fragmented, so there’s no push.
Meanwhile, back on the desktop, Python is still going strong. In my area of scientific programming, where the desktop app is King, Python is everywhere, from standalone programs and utilities, to bindings and scripting front ends to older Fortran/C/C++ programs, and I’ve not come across any Ruby at all.
May 13th, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Thanks for the info JamesM. That’s very interesting ;)
May 17th, 2006 at 4:33 pm
Shucks, thanks for having me on. And good job on the editing there :)
“The Ruby community has got behind RoR; Python is far more fragmented, so there’s no push.”
JamesM, that’s been true for some time, and I think it’s coming to an end - turbogears and django have focused a lot of minds and the external pressure from Rails has I think caused Python folks over the last 12 months to wonder if having all these “incomplete” competing solutions around is a good thing (”No, dammit!”). TG has a lot of fans, myself I’m *seriously* impressed by Django, i think it might be the best webside framework I’ve worked with. There are a number of webapps I want to port right now, my own blog included.
Walked by those Macs again today. Mmm.
May 19th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
Dude, it’s time to pull the trigger and a get a Mac. Get yourself a MacBook[Pro], throw Parrallels on it, and trash that PC.