Friday, April 14th, 2006 at 11:36 am
[DrunkAndRetired.com Podcast] Episode 45 - More Comments, SOA, The BPEL of California
In this episode, we respond to Adam Bien’s comment on episode 43: Lordi, BPEL, EJB locking, and Random Kung-Fu.
(This episode edited by Cote’.)
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April 15th, 2006 at 2:41 am
Thanks for your comment!
Great but short show :-)
1. I meant BPEL is “exciting” to debug and maintain (= hard to maintain). From my point of view it is not very exciting technology (not visible JSPs)
2. I think it is very hard (or even not possible) to provide the same semantics for service parameters cross departments in an enterprise or companies.
3. Just think about orchestration of services. It is nearly impossible to provide a transactional and composite service, because there is now way to execute the fine services in the context of the transaction of the composite service. In SOA-world you will have to play with compensating transactions. What happens if a compensating transaction also fails?
4. I think SOA is fine for procedural, data driven applications like workflow or portals. But in the practice the applications are more complicated then a federation of independent services.
5.I thought SOA is the weakest defined buzzword. I changed my mind -> now we have Web 2.0 :-).
6. I think SOA is more management (Golf Course Decision), then technology driven -> at least in the european companies.
7. Sorry for the long comment again. If you are interested, we could also discussed such topics “offline”.
8. Charles: why do you like stuff like “plastic bomber motorcycles”? Harley Davidson is lot more fun: cool sound and slow. So there is enough time during riding to think about the lack of stack trace in JavaScript :-)
My name “Bien” is spelled like “Bean”.
April 15th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
Short, but great, just as Adam said. I particularly enjoyed the part where Charles got really worked up and started ranting over Javascript and it’s lack of stack trace.
April 15th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
P.S. Your podcast only feed seems a little messed up, only showing episode 26, 23, and 22 on my RSS reader.
April 15th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
Have you tried the Venkman JavaScript Debugger for Mozilla Firefox? It lets you view the Call Stack (among many other revolutionary features, such as the ability to set breakpoints).
March 11th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Yes, the problem is that when things go wrong in IE, there’s no good way to get a stack trace.